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- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 16 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 921
-
- Today's Topics:
- Cable TV equivalent of 427.25 Mhz
- Have You Ever Noticed?
- how do i become a ham ?
- Temperature Telemetry
- UHF/VHF Remote VSWR Sensor Needed
-
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-
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 15:18:43 GMT
- From: utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!CC.UMontreal.CA!IRO.UMontreal.CA!clouso.crim.ca!hobbit.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!barde!vaillan@RUTGERS.EDU
- Subject: Cable TV equivalent of 427.25 Mhz
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have this list made by KA9WGN.
- 73 de Clement, VE2HQJ
-
- In article AA10564@flowserver.stem.com, dave@flowserver.stem.com (David Adams) writes:
- >Can anyone tell me the cable channel equivalent of 427.25 Mhz? I had
- >a whole list of all the channel/freqs before I left indiana (the
- >local atv community did NOT believe in downconverters), but I lost
- >it.
- >
- >73 de dave, n9uxu
-
-
-
-
- CHAN BROADCAST CABLE STD CABLE HRC CABLE IRC
- 1 --- --- 72.00 73.25
- 2 55.25 55.25 54.00 55.25
- 3 61.25 61.25 60.00 61.25
- 4 67.25 67.25 66.00 67.25
- 5 77.25 77.25 78.00 79.25
- 6 83.25 83.25 84.00 85.25
- 7 175.25 175.25 174.00 175.25
- 8 181.25 181.25 180.00 181.25
- 9 187.25 187.25 186.00 187.25
- 10 193.25 193.25 192.00 193.25
- 11 199.25 199.25 198.00 199.25
- 12 205.25 205.25 204.00 205.25
- 13 211.25 211.25 210.00 211.25
- 14 A 471.25 121.25 120.00 121.15
- 15 B 477.25 127.25 126.00 127.15
- 16 C 483.25 133.25 132.00 133.15
- 17 D 489.25 139.25 138.00 139.15
- 18 E 495.25 145.25 144.00 145.15
- 19 F 501.25 151.25 150.00 151.15
- 20 G 507.25 157.25 156.00 157.15
- 21 H 513.25 163.25 162.00 163.15
- 22 I 519.25 169.25 168.00 169.15
- 23 J 525.25 217.25 216.00 217.25
- 24 K 531.25 223.25 222.00 223.25
- 25 L 537.25 229.25 228.00 229.25
- 26 M 543.25 235.25 234.00 235.25
- 27 N 549.25 241.25 240.00 241.25
- 28 O 555.25 247.25 246.00 247.25
- 29 P 561.25 253.25 252.00 253.25
- 30 Q 567.25 259.25 258.00 259.25
- 31 R 573.25 265.25 264.00 265.25
- 32 S 579.25 271.25 270.00 271.25
- 33 T 585.25 277.25 276.00 277.25
- 34 U 591.25 283.25 282.00 283.25
- 35 V 597.25 289.25 288.00 289.25
- 36 W 603.25 295.25 294.00 295.25
- 37 AA 609.25 301.25 300.00 301.25
- 38 BB 615.25 307.25 306.00 307.25
- 39 CC 621.25 313.25 312.00 313.25
- 40 DD 627.25 319.25 318.00 319.25
- 41 EE 633.25 325.25 324.00 325.25
- 42 FF 639.25 331.25 330.00 331.25
- 43 GG 645.25 337.25 336.00 337.25
- 44 HH 651.25 343.25 342.00 343.25
- 45 II 657.25 349.25 348.00 349.25
- 46 JJ 663.25 355.25 354.00 355.25
- 47 KK 669.25 361.25 360.00 361.25
- 48 LL 675.25 367.25 366.00 367.25
- 49 MM 681.25 373.25 372.00 373.25
- 50 NN 687.25 379.25 378.00 379.25
- 51 OO 693.25 385.25 384.00 385.25
- 52 PP 699.25 391.25 390.00 391.25
- 53 QQ 705.25 397.25 396.00 397.25
- 54 RR 711.25 403.25 402.00 403.25
- 55 SS 717.25 409.25 408.00 409.25
- 56 TT 723.25 415.25 414.00 415.25
- 57 UU 729.25 421.25 420.00 421.25
- 58 VV 735.25 427.25 426.00 427.25
- 59 WW 741.25 433.25 432.00 433.25
- 60 XX 747.25 439.25 438.00 439.25
- 61 YY 753.25 445.25 444.00 445.25
- 62 ZZ 759.25 451.25 450.00 451.25
- 63 765.25 457.25 456.00 457.25
- 64 771.25 463.25 462.00 463.25
- 65 777.25 469.25 468.00 469.25
- 66 783.25 475.25 474.00 475.25
- 67 789.25 481.25 480.00 481.25
- 68 795.25 487.25 486.00 487.25
- 69 801.25 493.25 492.00 493.25
- 70 807.25 499.25 498.00 499.25
- 71 813.25 505.25 504.00 505.25
- 72 819.25 511.25 510.00 511.25
- 73 825.25 517.25 516.00 517.25
- 74 831.25 523.25 522.00 523.25
- 75 837.25 529.25 528.00 529.25
- 76 843.25 535.25 534.00 535.25
- 77 849.25 541.25 540.00 541.25
- 78 855.25 547.25 546.00 547.25
- 79 861.25 553.25 552.00 553.25
- 80 867.25 559.25 558.00 559.25
- 81 873.25 565.25 564.00 565.25
- 82 879.25 571.25 570.00 571.25
- 83 885.25 577.25 576.00 577.25
- 84 --- 421.25 420.00 421.25
- 85 --- 427.25 426.00 427.25
- 86 --- 433.25 432.00 433.25
- 87 --- 439.25 438.00 439.25
- 88 --- 445.25 444.00 445.25
- 89 --- 451.25 450.00 451.25
- 90 --- 457.25 456.00 457.25
- 91 --- 463.25 462.00 463.25
- 92 --- 469.25 468.00 469.25
- 93 --- 475.25 474.00 475.25
- 94 --- 481.25 480.00 481.25
- 95 --- 91.25 90.00 91.25
- 96 --- 97.25 96.00 97.25
- 97 --- 103.25 102.00 103.25
- 98 --- 109.25 108.00 109.25
- 99 --- 115.25 114.00 115.25
- CHAN BROADCAST CABLE STD CABLE HRC CABLE IRC
-
- HRC = Harmonic related carrier
- IRC = Interval related carrier
-
- Color subcarrier is 3.579545 MHz above video given
- Audio subcarrier is 4.500000 MHz above video given
-
- Exact color subcarrier is computed by 5*63/88 MHz
- This is the formula specified by the FCC in part 73
-
- Low VHF 54-88 MHz
- Midband 88-174 MHz
- High VHF 174-216 MHz
- Superband 216-300 MHz
- Hyperband 300-468 MHz
- Ultraband 468-648 MHz
- UHF 470-806 MHz (formerly 470-890)
- --
- /***********************************************************************\
- | Phil Howard --- KA9WGN --- pdh@netcom.com | "The problem with |
- | depending on government is that you cannot depend on it" - Tony Brown |
- \***********************************************************************/
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 19:02:37 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.service.uci.edu!ttinews!avatar!sorgatz@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Have You Ever Noticed?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Aug15.105157.1@aspen.uml.edu> martinja@aspen.uml.edu writes:
- >No offense to the old timers out there but have you ever noticed how often
- >they key up on top of each other during a QSO? I do a lot of listening on the
- >HF bands and I find the QSOs of most old timers very informative and very
- >interesting. It drives me up the wall, however, when Joe keys up on top of
- >Fred before Fred has unkeyed his mic. Now they're talking to themselves
- >because both are keyed up at the same time.
-
- Yup, and the reason is that a lot of those guys are deaf! Really..
- they dont hear very well, they crank up the volume and then...disaster strikes!
- ..the other Ham takes a breath between words and pow! The other OM quick-keys!
-
- >
- >I really believe this is one place a "roger" beep would be practical. I'd
- >rather hear that then to hear two stations talking as if they were in full
- >duplex operation.
- >
- >Comments anyone?
- >
-
- Nope. Roger-beeps are for lawbreaking CBers and other scum. With proper On-
- the-Air skills, this need not happen. SLOW KEY YOUR MIC! Dont assume he's off
- the key, wait till he turns it over to you, If he's been keyed-up long enuff
- to qualify for a broadcasting award - tell him nicely on the next go round, in
- a nice way - like: "Hey Joe, we decided you need a Push-to-Listen switch!"
-
- Second point: Fixed rotation in nets. Yeah it seems dull, but what's the real
- alternative? Buncha people keyed up...noone listening...Lid Net! So to avoid
- the "all-together-now" keyup...use a fixed rotation scheme, Im after N6xxx and
- then pass it to WA4yyy and so on. All the traffic/MARS nets do it, there must
- be a reason!
-
- >If you are an old timer and engage in actual "ragchew" please don't be offended
- >by this post. It's just an observation. It might even get you to pause a
- >little between turnovers -- just in case someone wants to break in. Or is
- >this just your way of keeping the frequency from being stolen by the new
- >breed of rude ham? Just curious...
- >
- >73 de WK1V | I speak for no one. |
- > -jim- | Nor myself for that matter! |
- >
-
- Actually, ragchew is just an extended conversation, the exchanges CAN be
- brief rapid-fire and not the 10 minute monotone broadcasting that sometimes
- try to be called ham radio. I noticed one OF that was exceeding 25 minutes
- per keyup on 80m AM..the group just left him after a few go-rounds...poor
- feller! Must be a drag...somebody should clue him in!
-
- 73!
-
-
- -Avatar-> (aka: Erik K. Sorgatz) KB6LUY +----------------------------+
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- 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 +----------------------------+
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 18:40:34 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.ssc.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!fang!ulysses!lznj!ucseng!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: how do i become a ham ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- hi everybody,
-
- i'm very keen to become a ham. what do i have to do ? i understand there
- are some exams to be taken. appreciate a reply that gives directions/hints
- on how to get started, who to contact etc.
-
- thanks in advance,
-
- venkat
- venkat@ucsdeva.ucs.att.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Aug 1994 11:37:26 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!wariat.org!malgudi.oar.net!infinet!wvanho@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Temperature Telemetry
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- oflber02@uctvax.uct.ac.za wrote:
- : I am currently doing a thesis on a Perishable Goods Temperature Monitor.
- : The thesis calls for a temperature probe which is packed with the goods.
- : An interrogator then interrogates the probe and a reading is given.
- : The problem is that the probe is not allowed to have a power source at all.
- : Thanks in advance
- : Bernard O'Flynn
- : Dept. of Electrical Engineering
- : University of Cape Town
-
- I am sure that your best bet would be to use a thermistor as the
- temperature sensor. It will give you a large, accurately known,
- resistance change with temperature. The resistance, then, could be
- used in an R-C oscillator with predictable and repeatable
- frequency-temperature characteristics.
-
- I will leave it to others to advise how you may be able to couple
- sufficient power into the circuit from one meter away! :-)
-
- 73, Van - W8UOF
-
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
- * It ain't wot ya don't know 't gets ya into trouble. *
- * It's wot ya know 't ain't true. - "Mr. Dooley" *
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
-
- wvanho@infinet.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 Aug 1994 01:01:19 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!news.rmc.ca!smith@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: UHF/VHF Remote VSWR Sensor Needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 Aug 1994 01:16:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!kennish@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CuLn0B.qL@world.std.com>, <32ov9d$c3j@news.duke.edu>, <CuLqqv.EJ4@world.std.com>
- Subject : Re: Crossband repeating rigs & auto IDers
-
- In article <CuLqqv.EJ4@world.std.com>,
- David R Tucker <drt@world.std.com> wrote:
- >Joe B. Simpson (jbs@duke.edu) wrote:
- >
- >: I thought the control operator of any station had to have the means to
- >: immediately shut down the transmitter. Time-out features aren't the same
- >: thing.
- >
- >The only thing I see that's even close is that a station under
- >telecommand must have something to limit transmission to no more than
- >3 minutes in the event the control link malfunctions. I'm open to
- >correction, though.
- >
- >-drt
-
- After looking in Part 97, this is the catch all:
-
- 97.105 Control operator duties. - (a) The control operator must
- ensure the immediate proper operation of the station, regardless of the
- type of control.
-
- OK, so you're the control op. You need to have a method to "ensure the
- immediate proper operation of the station." So, if you want to do it
- by carrier pigeon, that's OK, but it has to be "immediate" -- no
- time out timers allowed.
-
- ==Ken
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Aug 1994 18:29:52 -0700
- From: nntp.crl.com!crl.crl.com!not-for-mail@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <linleyCu5EMp.9sG@netcom.com>, <474@ted.win.net><32l7kv$ood@crl.crl.com>, <490@ted.win.net>a
- Subject : Re: 2m/11m crossband QSO: legal?
-
- Michael Silva (mjsilva@ted.win.net) wrote:
- :
- : In article <32l7kv$ood@crl.crl.com>, Charles A Daley (chdaley@crl.com) writes:
- : >Michael Silva (mjsilva@ted.win.net) wrote:
- : >:
- : >: In article <linleyCu5EMp.9sG@netcom.com>, Bruce James Robert Linley (linley@netcom.com) writes:
- : >: >I have a rather odd question to ask. When me and my dad go camping, we
- : >: >use CBs to communicate (my dad is not a ham)- one in the truck and a
- : >: >handheld. The problem is that the handheld just can't get a good signal
- : >: >out in certain areas due to it's inherently small antenna. I can hear
- : >: >the truck's CB just fine on the handheld anywhere in the camping area.
- : >: >Would it be possible for me to talk to my dad through a local 2m
- : >: >repeater (he could receive me on a scanner), and my dad to communicate
- : >: >back on the CB? Is either communication considered a "one-way" trans-
- : >: >mission? I've already talked to the 2m repeater owner and he has no
- : >: >objections to this particular use of his repeater. Any Part97/Part95
- : >: >prohibitions to cross-service QSOs? Thanks.
- : >: >
- : >: Sorry, can't be done. Look at Part 97.111, and you'll see that you can
- : >: only communicate with other amateurs (except for emergency
- : >: communications). The repeater owner, by consenting to this use of his
- : >: repeater, is putting his license on the line. Go back and educate him.
- : >
- : >Just for the sake of discussion, how is this vastly different from
- : >calling someone on an autopatch?
- : >
- : First note that the language of 97.111 actually speaks of "amateur
- : stations", not "amateurs". The way it's been explained to me is that
- : this is considered a communication between the amateur station
- : autopatching and the repeater, controlled by the control op, who is
- : allowing third party traffic over "his" station via the autopatch. I've
- : heard that some repeaters turn off their autopatch late at night when
- : all the control ops are in bed to stick more closely to the letter of
- : the law (and to prevent mischief in general).
-
- : I'm sure others will have more to add to my answer.
-
- : Mike, KK6GM
- :
-
- Then again, just for the sake of discussion...
-
- This suggests that if the repeater in question had a link to 11 meters
- (perish the thought...:) ) then all would be okay??? The one-way
- transmissions would be gone and the repeater would complete the
- requirement for an amateur station.
-
- Just thought I'd toss that in for thought.
-
- Chuck Daley
- KD4LXQ
-
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-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #921
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